You could get 40% more of the same data by increasing output on the ISS with no increased risk of death. The difference in environment between the ISS and the moon is worthless, instead of zero gravity they’re just in low gravity, which we can achieve without even going to the ISS, low orbit would do the trick with even lower risk. This is a publicity stunt to compensate for the US looking like a fucking joke, extra risk for no extra benefit beyond showing off.

You didn’t even notice that was someone else replying to you. Also most Lemmy instances are hosted in Europe. So if you prefer a mostly American platform, go to reddit or X. Also, Lemmy is generally political left, including far left. And by left I don’t mean American left, because what you consider left politically is considered right by the rest of the world where as your right is to the rest alt right or right wing extremism, going as far as fascism.

The fact that I’m anti American is because of all the wars they started, the warcrimes and crimes against humanity they committed and are still committing, the insane level of self centeredness and narcissistic behavior by most Americans and maybe the fact they started World War 3 because they voted a known criminal and child sex abusing dictator into office for a second time. While it’s own people are starving and dying of gun violence, including by federal agents, and easy but too expensive treatments for illnesses, while having barely any rights causing them to become homeless, easily fired or paid far under minimum wage which already is way too low for current living standards.

But before the whole Trump thing, most of the world already hated the US. For most it was like “better try to keep them as friends rather than enemies” but no one liked those warmongering dumbfucks who only care about themselves. And for good reason, look what it brought us all.

So if you’re American I can understand that the welfare of your kid(s) isn’t the highest priority and a trip to the moon might be cooler than raising them (like like owning guns is cooler than removing the risk of your kid being shot and killed at school).

I don’t have kids, but if I did I wouldn’t take risks like this, especially not when they already lost their mother. The foster care system is fucked, almost everywhere. Especially in the US. If I were to have kids, I would take my responsibility as a father.

Then there’s still the thing about where I’m from. I don’t see how that is relevant. But you assume all primary English speaking countries are developed, yet there are also third world countries where english is one of their main, or it’s only language. Like the US (now legally it’s only language thanks to Trump), Botswana, Liberia, Nigeria, etc. And yes, with the current wealth inequality, corruption, general survival chance and general quality of life of the average US population, it also classifies as a third world country. I mean, they still have legal slavery. But you’re not the only American assuming all English speaking countries are developed.

I am from a developed country and we do have issues, as every country does. Non of our national issues come even close to the issues the US has, or the US is causing to us. And English isn’t one of our primary languages, our official languages are Dutch and Frisian but we are educated, as contrary to the US, attending school is mandatory by law. I’ve had English, German and French in school for 13 years next to Dutch. Currently I’m learning Norwegian as my partner is from there. But foreign languages are hard for me, I’m a beta person so I’m excelling in math and science. I’m also dyslexic so I keep making mistakes.

But we’re moving away from the main subject here. You agree with me you won’t risk your kids losing their farther by doing this. But then you say I can go fuck myself because you’re American. Why though, I don’t understand. Because you’re proud the US is going back to the moon? You know your tax money is paying for this bullshit right?

There’s a reason we didn’t go back there for 50 years.

Whatever we can achieve on the moon like farming water ice can be done better with robots, either autonomous or remote controlled (because the moon distance has barely any latency), as the entire infrastructure for humans is overly complex, expensive and dangerous and causes the eventual process to include the human error factor. But rationality is gone when corporate/billionaire/dictator greed comes into the equation.

As an American

Are you aware that every non-US American immediately rolls their eyes and won’t take anything else coming out of your mouth serious, when you say something like that?

If you don’t like America, then get off Lemmy. Because guess what? Lemmy was largely developed by an American.

Stock exchange was invented by the Dutch. If you don’t like the Dutch, would you sell all your stocks if you had them? What a bullshit argument. “Oh I don’t want that medication because it was invented by a French person”. Grow up. Your entire country is based on European countries, it’s heritage, culture and inventions, and exists mainly due to genocide of the native Americans and slavery which boosted its economy.

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Thanks for satiating my curiosity.