• Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip
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      Last time I saw someone grabbing some food the only reason I saw them was to mention a security guard who was about to turn down the aisle. Gotta watch out for each other

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      I once remember reading a story where a police SQUAD chased a woman for over 3 hours in a police chase.

      The crime? She had stolen 2 loafs of pumperknickle bread, and ran out of the store. Employees chased her, got her liscense plate, and cops pursued.

      They then arrested her, and I forget the exact jailtime she got, but it was more than 10 years. If I were an employee, I’d have “chased” her. Just enough to get my bosses to think I was trying, but then oh no, I’m too fat and slow! She got away in the parking lot.

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      *stealing anything. (As long as they’re stealing from a business, at least.)

      You could be holding the cashier at gunpoint and emptying out the register, and I didn’t see shit.

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        Corporation, you mean.

        The word business covers honest people making an honest living running their own thing, too.

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            True, but they’re probably not ripping you off and reporting billions in profit. Corporations are almost guaranteed to be. My neighborhood gas station is not on the list.

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              but they’re probably not ripping you off and reporting billions in profit.

              Nah, they’re just ripping you off and reporting thousands in profit.

              They’re doing the exact same thing, just on a smaller scale. And if you got rid of the big corpos, they’d grow to fill the void left behind and start doing it on a bigger scale.

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                So every working person is an asshole and the only ethical way to obtain food is to steal it?

                Doesn’t seem too ethical to me. Sounds like a justification for being an antisocial asshole.

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                  So every working person is an asshole

                  Nah, most of them are just working for an asshole.

                  and the only ethical way to obtain food is to steal it

                  Well, you could also grow it yourself.

                  But, sure, stealing is one of the most ethical ways to obtain food.

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                    So everyone is either a farmer, a thief, or an unethical food-obtainer. Got it.

                    Always fun to find out other people’s values and ethics.

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            That is true, but it doesn’t automatically mean that business = dishonest. I like to give human beings some benefit of the doubt in a way that abstract things like corporations do not get. They were born into the same superficial capitalist dystopia I was, and their job might simply mean being self-employed and dealing with the general public. As somebody with a desk/wfh job, that sounds sucky in a retail sort of way.

            Don’t misunderstand me though – plenty of them are total shitbags. I need to find a new local mechanic and it sucks. I’m just saying check your assumptions.

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        I was getting tires put on and the parking lot was connected to several other businesses one being a large chain jewelry store like Jared or Smythe. So I’m standing out front smoking a cigarette and I see commotion at the jewelry store a few guys jump in a car , it winds through the parking lot at high speed and blows right by me standing on the curb ,out onto a main street and towards the interstate. It was a gold seabring from enterprise with a driver that looked like Troy Polamalu and two guys laying down in the back seat.

        It was a fucking heist ! I thought wow that’s cool , finished my cig and sat back in the waiting room . 15 minutes later the pigs show up , I act like I’m reading a magazine and I hear two dudes ( that were preachers at some Baptist church from their conversation i had overheard earlier) point at me and tell the pig " oh he was just outside maybe he saw something ". Pig came over I said “nah , don’t now what your talking about” and kept reading the magazine. The tire store let the pig see their security footage and then he comes back over to me , red faced demanding I tell him what I saw. I just said man I don’t know what the fuck your talking about and wasn’t outside at all since I got there and those two guys were lying. I kept reading the mag and the clown walked away after trying to explain to me how serious the situation was .

        Nobody got hurt , they locked a UPS guy and the workers in a vault and took a bunch of jewelry. 6 months later I saw on the news they all got caught, it was an crime ring with pigs from NYC involved in the hyjinx. Glad I never wound up in that court room.

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        You lose me at the point where you’re pointing a gun at someone that is just trying to make a living. Stuff merchandise down your pants all you want I guess, don’t point a weapon at someone making minimum wage.

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        I actually am excited to teach my kid tricks to get free shit from places like Amazon and Walmart. I’ve mentioned my excapades a few times, and have instilled in him we don’t steal from our neighbors no matter how small, people work hard for their shit. But companies that report $54 BILLION in profit and treat their employees like trash are fair game.

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      I’m a school bus driver in a good school district and I drop off one kid who then waits at a bus stop for a city bus heading for the really poor city right next to us. I know exactly what’s up and I would never say shit about it. And I also live in this district and pay the exorbitant school property tax every year, so it’s not like this doesn’t affect me.

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      The only people who say this are out of touch rich kids

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          Because people who live in areas where this shit happens regularly dont encourage it. Its scum behaviour that destroys the community.

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            Bro, it’s a little food. They’re not knocking over shelves and burning places to the ground. Walmart can get fucked, as far as I’m concerned Walmart created their own problem.

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              Its not a little food people walk out with shopping carts full of meat and other expensive items. Its not just Walmart this affects every store.

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                How do the losses compare to the profits? How do the profits compare to charitable donations? How do the profits compare to taxation? How do the profits compare to average employee wage? You recognize the side you’re taking, right? You’re trying to adhere to a moral line when dealing with a blatently immoral entity.

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                  These are not losses. They’ll just push up the price of goods based on their chance of being stolen.

                  You’re not stealing from the store, you’re stealing from everyone else that actually pays for the products.

                  Unless you’re stealing from a small shop that doesn’t have the time and resources to calculate price based on theft. In which case, you are an asshole for stealing from a small business.

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                    they’ll raise prices no matter what you do. in fact, having worked at walmart before, the pickup department generates more waste and shrinkage than people stealing.

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                  You’d fit right into my neighbourhood. Thats the same scumbag me against the world logic that makes it such a shithole.

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                Companies unloading customers pockets and not paying living wages. At some point it’s going to be expected you’re going to get shit stolen. Its also insured.

                You’re probably the same person to vote against SNAP and free school lunch, then still bitch when people who can’t afford to eat steal it. Either help them, or prepare to get fucked.

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            the community is already destroyed when its acceptable to snitch on those who can’t afford groceries. ALL HAIL BIG CAPITALISM!

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              You think they can’t afford groceries? This is what I mean by out of touch.

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                And you think they can? Why would they risk heavy fines for a fecking loaf of bread?!

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                  Heavy fines? Shoplifting anything under 2k you walk off Scott free and thats only in the unlikely chance you get caught.

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                    Where are you from? In Germany this is penalised like regular theft so fines and or jail time of up to 5 years.

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                  To feed people who dont have money to buy food… So they dont have to steal.

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            Do you live in such an area?

            If you were make an ordered list of things that destroy a community, where does “petty theft of groceries” fall on the list? What other things are included?

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        As a poor person, nah.

        As someone who’s spent a lot of time with out-of-touch rich kids, they think shit magically appears. Especially money.

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          Yes obviously poor thieves say this as well. But theyre hated.