I’m working on it. Maybe. Well, one day. Like when other Left of centre, anti trump, anti corpo type folks oppose the things I oppose in correct manner and degree, duh.

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    Just admit you got permabanned for saying we should normalize punching nazis, it’s nothing to be ashamed of. It’s why we’re all here.

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        5 days ago

        That’s funny, because I originally wrote “hunting nazis” but revised it to “punching nazis” to make it more palatable to the non-violent. Although either statement would get you banned on reddit…

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            @Gentryfried@feddit.uk, is there something you disagree with my statement?

            do you think that Nazi’s should live in the same world as the rest of us?

            As far as I knew all Nazis have been dead for a long time…if there are living Nazi’s, shouldn’t they be dead?

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                Fwiw, I automatically downvote this childish shit because almost everyone online seems to call anyone they dislike a Nazi.

                If you’re using pop history’s biggest bad guys to refer to everyone with whom you disagree, oknbut you don’t also get to claim the moral high ground that comes with punching aforementioned popular history’s worst bad guys.

                You’re just saying you want to punch those with whom you disagree, minus the intellectual justification.

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                  4 days ago

                  the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

                  💀

                  can you point out where I called anyone a Nazi?

                  If you feel personally attacked by the statement, I have some bad news for you…

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                  The part where you’re wrong is when you assume I’m using “nazi” to refer to anyone I disagree with. Maybe some people do that, and that would be both childish and incorrect. Similar to some people using “communist” the same way.

                  However, that’s not how I use the terms. I have more than a surface-deep level of understanding pertaining to fascism, and I’m capable of recognizing the signs and symptoms. Are you?

                  Anyone who’s been paying attention can see the resurgence of fascism happening plain as day. People openly praising hitler should not be normal. People doing nazi salutes or parading nazi flags should not be normal. Government officials instituting nazi-esque policies, with nazi-style tactics, for professed reasons that are reminiscent of nazi-like worldviews, should not be normal.

                  Your comment is no different from when tankies get upset when I call them tankies, and they claim that I’m only calling them that because I disagree with them. No, I only call people tankies if they’re behaving like tankies. There are specific argumentative styles that distinguish them.

                  I’m perfectly capable of disagreeing with someone without calling them a nazi or a tankie, if they’re not behaving like a nazi or a tankie. If they are, then their behavior needs to be corrected. If they refuse to correct their behavior, then they should be rejected, shunned, and removed from polite society.

                  Society cannot tolerate intolerance, or else it will become an intolerant society. And the only people arguing otherwise do so only to try to justify their own intolerance.

                  So it’s pretty sus that you come here trying to obfuscate things by claiming it’s childish to call out nazism (or if you prefer more generally, for technical accuracy, fascism; although literal neonazis have also made a resurgence).

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                    I have more than a surface-deep level of understanding pertaining to fascism, and I’m capable of recognizing the signs and symptoms.

                    Watching Andor or some youtuber doesn’t count as a significant understanding of fascism.

                    If you’d actually learned about fascism, you’d know that the Brownshirts and Blackshirts both were itching for street level fights and that the resulting chaos in the streets fueled perceptions of mayhem which helped enable both fascist movements to enact more sweeping laws etc.

                    The reason trump sent ICE into Democratic cities with smaller immigrant communities was precisely because he was hoping people would be dumb enough to start throwing punches or better/worse yet, kill an officer.

                    You beat nascent fascism movements by convincing people. You don’t win by punching randoms. As my friend had to explain to her young son, “you might be right but the moment you throw a punch, you’ve lost. Doesn’t matter if you’re in the right, you’ve lost.”

                    Honestly, if I were one of the digital overlords of social media and I wanted to help the trump administration, I can think of few things more effective than promoting this idea of punching “nazis”. If enough idiots listen and we start throwing serious punches, we’ll lose.

                    If you want to learn, it’s a bit of a slog but I can think of few books better than Shirers Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.