Every cybertruck I see where I live has some company logo or wrap on it. It’s great advertising – it lets me know never to hire that company for anything.
The most hilarious one is for a company that does waterproofing. Like yes, I’m going to hire a waterproofing company that just spent $100K on a vehicle that can’t go through a car wash.
• from over the hedge
Sadly this doesn’t hold true for red states. I’ve seen multiple people putting their children at risk by ferrying them around in a vehicle that makes the Ford Pinto look safe.
Owning a cybertruck is an indication the driver is a Nazi. It was always an indicator of very poor taste, but now it marks you as a Nazi. Don’t bother trying to change my mind. I know it, my cat knows it, the mould in that tupperware I keep putting off opening in the far reaches of my fridge knows it.
No excuses now, and no bumper stickers will dissuade me. It’s been long enough, sell the thing or start sieg heiling.
my cat knows it
See, that’s what we call an appeal to authority
this is not an endorsement of Musk or of Tesla or of cybertruck drivers - but this is a Very Online take. My boss’ husband drives a cybertruck, he doesn’t know what tiktok is, he doesn’t know what a meme is nor does he understand them when he sees them (he asks who it’s a photo of), the only news he consumes is in regards to logistics and supply chain and a little bit of the stock market.
I imagine he has as much understanding of why people hate elon musk as to I do as to why people love Sidney Crosby and hate Alexander Ovechkin - two people I had never heard of or know nothing about before googling “hockey players people love and hate.”
I won’t even remember their names in 5 minutes. I imagine a fair amount of cybertruck owners are like that.
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If he’s that out of the loop on news, the poor bastard probably doesn’t even realize he dies in a fire locked inside it every time he drives.
It’s not a “Very Online” take, it’s a “paying any modicum of attention” take. Willful ignorance is not a valid excuse for anything, and if your boss truly thinks of Elon Musk (the richest man in the world who has bought elections and media platforms and every American’s social security number) the same way that you think of some random hockey player, then your boss is being willfully ignorant. It’s giving “i’M nOt pOLiTiCaL”, which we all know is just cowardese for “conservative”.
I guess that’s fair, though my 89 year old dad who’s also not terminally online knows this, so I have a hard time with excuses now.
Much as it sucks, if I see your boss’s husband driving that crime against fingers, I’m still gonna see him as a Nazi. Maybe someone should tell him, and show him the video.
random people on the street flip him off, and some people have thrown stuff at him. He thinks they’re weirdos and it’s kinda funny. 🤷♂️
also I’m not going to tell the bosses husband people think he’s a nazi. I’m going to take my pay and enjoy my weekends and vacations.
Hey man, you’re under no obligation to tell him, nor to defend him.
So stop defending him.
You understand the situation now. Continuing to stay “stop defending him” means you just want to cling to your black and white categorisation, and don’t want to hear anyone question it.
I don’t live in the US - very few people here are actual Nazis and cybertrucks aren’t road legal. But people are still buying model 3s and Ys.
I wouldn’t do that when the CEO has outed himself as a nazi but I’m also not so immature as to think everyone who’ll buy a product and ignore the shit the company owner does is a fucking nazi, because that’s insane.
Very early on, I think there were some well-meaning people who were really excited about it. The idea of an all-electric truck was brand new, and the promise was huge. It unfortunately wasn’t until after many Cybertruck preorders had been secured that Elon plainly revealed his true colors, and then after it was delivered that people found out it was a piece of garbage
Idk, the first cyber trucks delivered nov 30 2023.
His takeover of Twitter was 2022, with plenty of bright red flags The “pedo guy” thing was 2019 All of his COVID violations were extremely public in 2020 and 2021
I think you’d have to be living under a rock to be completely unaware of what he was by the time preorders were locked in
None of those amount to Nazism. You know what does? Throwing out a couple of Hitler salutes. But that didn’t happen until later.
Strong disagree. Buying Twitter to amplify the voices of Nazis is pretty straightforwardly an act of a Nazi
Ok, I agree that if musk’s objective in buying twitter was to amplify nazi voices, that confirms him as a nazi.
Do you have convincing proof that that was his objective? Convincing enough that some random guy buying a car who “doesn’t care about politics” would immediately believe he’s a nazi? I don’t think so.
He stated his aim was to remove barriers to free speech. People disagree over what speech should be protected as a matter of principle, so our hypothetical buyer may very well have thought that that was a good idea.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Views_of_Elon_Musk&oldid=1182272283
Though it’s worth noting that for all of his claims of supporting free speech broadly, he only ever acted in support of the freedom of certain kinds of speech
Top result for me searching “musk promotes far right accounts” from 2022 https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/115561/documents/HHRG-118-IF16-20230328-SD035.pdf
The point is, this stuff is trivially easy to find
The point is, each additional step adds uncertainty:
- Musk is highly likely to be a Nazi because
- he very likely bought Twitter in order to promote Nazis, which we know because
- after the acquisition, it’s very likely that his actions have been to promote Nazis, which we know because
- after the acquisition, the accounts we know have been promoted are right and far-right
In reverse order:
- What if there are other actions in support of left-wing views our analysis has missed? What if the motivation was a belief that left-wing views were generally not being suppressed as much as right-wing views? (An easy belief to acquire, because the far-right are more violent than the far-left, so more often fall foul of rules against promotion of violence)
- What if these far-right groups are horrible, but not actually Nazis?
- What if Musk bought Twitter for other reasons, even though the actual effect has been promoting far-right/Nazis?
Let me be very clear: it is abundantly obvious that Musk is a Nazi. I am not trying to convince you that he isn’t. I’m not trying to convince you that there was no reason to think he was a horrible shitstain in 2023; there absolutely was. But you and others in this thread are conflating convincing evidence with incontrovertible evidence. That’s just a failure of empathy; people are unconvinced by convincing evidence all the damn time.
It’s just a convenient loophole for fascists to pretend they’re not fascists.
“Oh no I gave them a fully refundable $100 to pre-order it, guess I’m locked into giving this seig heiling, election interfering, pedophilic elite illegal immigrant $100k.”
There’s a bunch of defenders in this very thread.
Every time I see one I think, “that’s so ugly it’s almost cute.” I just love janky crap.
Janky can be great if not ‘designed’ by and supporting Nazis.
Love me the 70s Gremlin.
I love it!
No excuses now, and no bumper stickers will dissuade me. It’s been long enough, sell the thing or start sieg heiling.
Hard to sell them when the only potential buyer market is people you want to avoid at all cost or a used car place that will buy it for an insulting fraction of it’s value.
And buying a replacement in this economy? We can judge new buyers all day long, we can judge people with 200k salaries that keep them, but there’s lot of folks are stuck with a car that no one will buy; and maybe their situation isn’t so great either.mmaybe they got laid off, had to take a big salary cut to keep living, can’t afford a new car, and because they can charge the car for free at work they have extra money for food.
No sympathy.
e: do you seriously expect me to care about your bad investment when my car (that I love and baby) is worth less than $5,000? Scrap yards exist. Your bad decision is worth more in parts than my home. And I am currently having to fight to keep my fucking car.
Edit I kind of skimmed the part where you said cyber trucks owners are Nazis. By that I mean, I read it is as Tesla owners are Nazis. Yeah, anyone who bought a Tesla in the last 5 years is probably a piece of garbage human or is an unfortunate result of a failed education. Which also makes selling them for good price a whole lot harder. The bumper stickers are a bandaid people use to make them selves feel a tiny it better, and a little extra hope their tires won’t get slashed.
People bought into the marketing hype pre-2020, and it was pretty much the only viable full EV in North America due to the charge network. A lot of people got them with good intentions for the environment.
Most people take out loans to buy new cars. When you sell or scrap a car the loan doesn’t go away. If you have 30k left on a loan, scrap the car for 10k - you’ll be left with a 20k loan and no car.
Regardless of a car’s financial worth, having a functional car is worth a lot more.
What your asking people to do is about as financially crazy as if someone told you to sell your car for $500, spend a thousand into maintance, and then go to buy a new one the leftover cash. In other words - blow a sizable chunk of your own money because the owner of the car company is a shit person. Who does that help? Musk already got his money, reselling the car does jack shit to him and completely fucks over the seller.
They said “no sympathy” pretty clearly
And I say fuck that way of thinking.
It was largely the democratic side of people that pushed for green energy and to stop polluting with gas cars. People listened, found Teslas were a great EV option and now the same people are telling Tesla owners they are Nazis for owning one.
It’s getting stabbed in the back by the people you supported because some rich guy is a piece of shit.
And truthfully I don’t own a Tesla, its my trans sister that has to deal with harassment and people telling her “they can’t accept her as a woman because she’s own a Tesla”. Fuck them and their exclusive “inclusivity” club.
they can’t accept her as a woman because she’s own a Tesla
That’s fucked up. Being anti-Trans is far more unacceptable than being pro-Tesla.
I think an incorrect presumption made is that Tesla owners are always well off enough to replace them with sufficient motivation, rather than having seen it as an investment.
Yeah. I flip them off every time.
I never flip anyone off. Never honk. Never do much of anything…
But I flip Nazi’s off every time.
I too, flip these car/trucks over anytime I see them. They aren’t going anywhere upside down.
I’ve seen one many times driving to work, or home from family visits (on the same road) and I always make sure they see my finger flying out the window. The last time I saw them, they were having an argument, and I choose to believe they were arguing over something to the tune of:
“I HATE RIDING IN THIS THING, WE ALWAYS GET FLIPPED OFF”
“IDK WHAT TO TELL YOU, IT WAS A GREAT INVESTMENT”
Even if that’s not it, seeing people be miserable in a cybercuck makes me happy on the inside.
I heard a comedian a while back talking about how her husband gives people a thumbs down instead of flipping them off in road rage situations and it pisses people off so much more, so I’ve been doing that to cybertrucks. I love it.
I never understood this weird hate boner that Reddit and Lemmy users have for cybertrucks specifically. It can’t be a moral position because they’re fine with regular Teslas, just not this one. It also can’t be about the ugly design because they’re fine with other ugly cars.
The thing is that I’ve seen a few of these out in the wild, and they’re almost always driven either by Indian tech bros or white finance bros. I’ve never seen any right wing types drive these like so many people here seem to think. In fact, the right wing types have this weird vendetta against all electric cars and they intentionally go for the gas guzzling pickup trucks. Which this hate boner even more baffling. It’s like people are mad for the sake of it.
People don’t hate on other Tesla vehicles as much because there is plausible deniability of the being bought before Elon went mask off Nazi. The cyber truck was announced after he gave everyone good reason to not support him.
The design is not only ugly, it’s also dangerous, hard to maintain and repair, (and I believe the repair work must be done by Tesla mechanics) , fragile, and very distinct. Other ugly cars are ugly yes, but they aren’t nearly as eye catching as the mobile refrigerators.
Indian tech bros and white finance bros can be right wing too.
Yeah many right wingers hate electric vehicles. Which highlights why it was such a bad idea for Elon to be so openly a Nazi. He pissed off the people that want electric vehicles, and sided with people that hate them.
