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    Okay, but the other side isn’t fascism? They are hardly democracy, but they aren’t totalitarians?!

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        Yeah, some guy on the internet certainly has final say on matters, eh? Your entire government has always been fascist by your descriptor as it has always been the #1 backer of the state of Israel. At least one side wasn’t planning on mass murder in the streets and blanket abductions to black sites? Pick and choose though, ammirite?!

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          Actually, they were very much planning on and doing mass murders in the streets and abductions to black sites, they just were doing it 1000s of kms away in Palestine instead of doing it at home.

          Genocide and mass murder in the streets are Genocide and mass murder in the streets even when they’re not happening at home, the fact that you think who it’s being done to makes one instance “less evil” than the other is just chauvinism and white supremacy.

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            Oh I’m sorry, I wasn’t aware Palestinians are currently not being ousted from their homes and territories and summarily raped, imprisoned and executed. Thank God those liberals aren’t in power eh? They were going to do it then times harder, right?

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              Not only are you trying to deflect criticism but you are doing so with a straw-man, pathetic.

              The point isn’t any illusion that the Reps aren’t doing those things, the point is that the fact the Dems are doing the same thing shows that they aren’t any better or any less evil than the Reps.

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                I disagree with you, and I believe evil has a scale, if you will. The Democrats are far less evil than Republicans. You need a new government, wholesale, and I’ve said as much. But if you are going to pick the lesser of two evils, you ha e failed greatly at that task. You picked the most evil of all evils, and you are paying the price, as are the Palestinians. Who is deflecting? You won’t admit the Republicans are more in the wrong. You just point out shit Dems do as if the other party isn’t doing it ten times harder. So nyah!

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                  You ghouls keep acting like leftists not supporting genocide were somehow entitled. Maybe Biden should have prevented the extermination of Palestinians if they wanted the leftist vote then???

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    Multiple things can be true at once.

    • The election process in the US is horribly constructed in the first place
    • It’s executed even more poorly
    • Nevertheless, voting does determine who sits in the seat
    • It does matter who sits in the seat
    • The person who sits in the seat will represent the wealthy and powerful, not you
    • It does matter who represents the powerful, because they can be pushed (by the people, and by the powerful) in different ways
    • Even if we get the right person in the seat, and do a very good job of pushing them, it won’t be enough
    • We need to do it anyway, because that act of organizing isn’t only to influence politicians — it’s also to influence ourselves, and improve our ability to find a path to real victory

    Don’t think that voting alone is sufficient. Don’t think that voting and organizing are sufficient. But also don’t think that voting and organizing are not necessary.