Mike Hardaker, who has maintained a Reddit account for 20 years, has been shadow-banned on Reddit. He has posted an update on X, stating that Reddit requires an ad spend to restore organic posting. This demand was given to him in writing.

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    13 days ago

    I found out today that they have removed r/all from the mobile platforms.

    The one unifying feed… Heaven for it folk experience consensus media or have a shared experience.

    By slicing it all up they can tweak individual algorithms to push more jank than ever. No longer do they have to game the system to get AstroTurfed Ads on the front page.

    Actually, didn’t they used to call themselves the “front page of the internet”? How does that work if no one sees the same page?

    • lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      I think most people unsubscribe from r/all anyway and subscribe to subs related to their favorite hobbies and games and work related info. Most of my frontpage is for video games I’m currently playing, programs I’m currently using and odd fun subs like moviemistakes or maybemaybemaybe. I wish I could do that here.

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        13 days ago

        And that’s all cool… But it is weird to take that choice away from users.

        Much like here, a quick browse of all introduces me to a wider world with different concerns. It’s how I find stuff.

        And I’m pretty sure what you do is possible here… What are you having a problem with?

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          13 days ago

          I can’t figure out how to unsub from the Lemmy version of r/all. So I’m getting latestagecapitalism, politics, politicalmemes, various communist instances. 80% of what’s on my page is politics. I’m not interested in that.

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            13 days ago

            What client are you using?

            On Voyager there is a tab at the top to switch between all and “home”. Home is just the subs you subscribe to.

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              12 days ago

              I’m using the website. After what you said, I checked and it has Subscribed/Local/All at the top of the page. That’s really nice. I just started using Lemmy so I haven’t completely figured it out yet. I use old reddit, so it might be set up the same way as new reddit but I wouldn’t have known.

              Edit:

              What are hidden posts?

              • adam_y@lemmy.world
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                12 days ago

                You can chose to hide posts.

                That might be based on a keyword, for example, “Trump”, or based on tages such as NSFW.

                You can always chose to see these posts again.

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    12 days ago

    Can anyone tell me what the fuck an organic account and organic posting is? Is this the def?

    Organic social media refers to unpaid content that individuals and brands share on social media to engage audiences without paid ads or direct selling.

    And if so, wtf. I mean, I expected nothing less from the Reddit zionist cesspool, but still…

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    12 days ago

    At least they put it in writing. They suspended and deleted all of my 15 years of posts, comments and moderating without even a good by. Fuck Spez, and Fuck Reddit may they reap the whirlwind.

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    13 days ago

    I don’t know who this guy is, but the fact that he is crying on twitter about being shadow-banned on reddit tells me I don’t really give a fuck about him, his opinion, or his perceived slights against him.

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      13 days ago

      I care if reddit is dishonestly enforcing rules to force people to buy ads. That’s good for us actually. If only we had more enlightened instances with more functionality.

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      13 days ago

      Niche communities don’t turn on a dime to a new platform. He’s on Twitter because his audience is on Twitter.

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    14 days ago

    So let me get this straight. Some jerk off looking to advertise his site by spamming links on several subs was hoping to AstroTurf COUGH I mean organically post… And Reddit Ad Team saw that and figured they could milk him for some dollars? So this doucher takes to Xhitter to try to get sympathy?

    Ahh capitalism at its finest.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      13 days ago

      wut

      Unless the article is absolutely lying, it mentioned the subreddits wanted the posts and couldn’t overcome the sitewide ban (i.e. manually approving the content). Your comment is a really huge stretch there.

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        13 days ago

        Hardaker is the operator of Mountain Weekly News, and he regularly used to contribute to three or four subreddits

        So I am going to stop right there and ignore any conceivably ingenious reply you may come up with to justify and spin what the dude is actually doing. Spend enough time on Reddit like the grownups around here and you’ll eventually understand.

        • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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          Listen, kid, I’ve been on reddit since 2009. I hung out with the admins in IRC back in the day. I was a default mod for a while, and I’m the “father” of /r/nottheonion.

          There’s plenty I don’t know about reddit and life in general, but on this topic, clearly I know a fuck ton more than you.

          There was a time on reddit when self-promotion was against the rules. That rule was dropped something like a decade ago.

          The simple fact is that - from at least the article’s telling - the subreddits wanted the content, and in that case, it is absolutely fine and encouraged for someone to submit.

          There’s a guy making youtube reviews of restaurants in my local city’s subreddit. The content is popular - people like it. So we absolutely are happy to see him post. Is it self-promotion? Yes, technically. It’s also relevant to the subreddit and desired by the mods and members of the subreddit.

          You’re like the people saying “dis a repost” when someone CROSS-posts. Note that reddit has a BUILT IN SYSTEM for cross-posting, but there are redditors who don’t know that.

          So, little boy, you can take your condescension and /r/confidentlyincorrect along with /r/iamverysmart and fucking LEARN something, or go off and continue to be willfully ignorant.

          Disclaimer: If the article’s reporting is incorrect and the subreddits considered it spam, well, that’s not what the article said, and I don’t otherwise have other knowledge of it, nor do I care enough to google for any other possible sources. But that’s the informatio you’re working off of as well, so there’s that.

          PS: To add a light-hearted end: I’ll go to /r/dontyouknowwhoiam now :) (that name seems too long. Is that the right one/ Well, you probably know what I mean and I’m too lazy to look it up :P )

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      13 days ago

      He might not be morally good, but what Reddit is doing here is illegal in many places.

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      13 days ago

      REAL humans posting. anything that utilizes bots, AI isnt organic, but reddit often bans the real humans over AI posting.

      as you know reddit bans people if it looks for patterns thats repeating itself.

    • hector@lemmy.today
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      13 days ago

      It’s a variation on a reddit as I understand it, an unusual sex move. Organic posting is where, well, you don’t want to know.

        • hector@lemmy.today
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          12 days ago

          No I think it’s when you sit in the cuck chair and beat off to the government raping someone while you pretend it’s consensual.

    • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      12 days ago

      Remember when users used to flood reddit subs to find support, real opinions, express dissatisfaction, criticize bad feature/products, and warn others?

      Now, the people who complain get flooded by astroturfing bots run by marketing agencies to say they’re holding it wrong, not important enough, doing something wrong while praising corporation overtaking governments.

      Now that Google has partnered with reddit, they get to have many searches sending troves of people there expecting solutions or like minded people or community support.

      So, yea there are still people.

  • comador @lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    First mistake: Staying on Reddit. Fuck Spez.

    Second mistake: Complaining about Reddit on X. Fuck Musk.

    Let’s just hope this user stays away from substack next.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    an ad spend

    When you’re off the used car lot, ‘spend’ is still only a verb, and the word you wanted here is maybe ‘purchase’ or ‘deal’.

    ‘The spend’, ‘the ask’, and other cheese should stay back with the pre-owned Pontiacs.

    • rumba@lemmy.zip
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      12 days ago

      It’s actually a proper term in current marketing parlance. You can find it in glossaries in AppsFlyer, Adjust, and any of dozens of other digital marketing applications.

      Ad spend is the amount of money a marketing team spends on digital and traditional advertising campaigns.

      In the OP this differentiates it from a fine or paid feature. They’re are literally requiring them to buy advertising to allow them to post in an open forum.

    • willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It’s corporate speak, imo.

      I hate it too.

      They also like to call everything “assets.” Not a “picture” or an “image” or a “decoration” or a million other descriptive words. It’s all “assets.” When the corporates talk like that they are emphasizing ownership and profitabiliy. “Put that money-making thing we own there.” “Lisa, which folder did you put that money-making thing we own in?”

      🤢

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    14 days ago

    That’s nothing. I was permabanned for inciting violence or whatever they claimed, which broke rule #1. My “violence” was calling AI stupid (more or less) wishing it’d go away. Ironically, the mod bot banned me.

    • 🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞@lemmy.world
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      Mine came from simply saying that a drone would probably take care of a Russian solder seen in a video on crutches heading toward the front lines in Ukraine. Literally just that. Not saying it with any joy or approval, just a statement of fact. Phrased pretty damn much like I said it in this comment here.

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      13 days ago

      I keep hearing stuff like this, makes me wonder if they are even honestly getting those moderations wrong, or if they are pretending to get it wrong to ban you for other reasons. My violations were often in bad faith for other reasons that I got violated for I believe. Did you get into any arguments with like Influence agents for a powerful group? Ie Israel but not limited to.

      • willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        if they are pretending to get it wrong to ban you for other reasons

        Oh, this has to be a very common behavior.

        Or making overly strict rules because you plan on selective enforcement from the get go.

        People will weaponize anything when they are fighting for an advantage.

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      13 days ago

      My ~19 year old account was permabanned after three strikes that involved two upvotes of Luigi pictures and then— after seeing a vid of Trump falling asleep— saying he shouldn’t wake up.

      Then my alt got a warning for “disparaging communities” after I said one of the two PDX subreddits started so they could talk shit about houseless people, which is a fact.

      Three of those were flagged by AI, the last one— the warning— was a person flagging it and couldn’t be contested.

      It’s gone to the dogs.

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        13 days ago

        I’m jealous of all y’all who know why you got bans.

        I’ve gotten warning and temp bans, but they never specify why. They never include the content. Just saying promoting this or that is very unclear, like how, when, where? Did I actually?

        I always just ignore them and carry on on alts for a while.

        Their shit is so stupid. But there’s a lot of useful content on Reddit. I still hit up old house and DIY type groups, cause I own an old house, and specific tech groups because of the tech I use, but I don’t miss the rest.

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          13 days ago

          I left before they could ban me. I’d most certainly be gone by now.

          Getting rid of that algorithm was probably the second most positive change I made in my life in the past 5 years.

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          12 days ago

          You can surf Reddit without an account and without their app.

          Google searches lead you to relevant info. Then you leave. Voila!

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      12 days ago

      It’s a clone of Digg which was a clone of forums, and it’s full of ads and bots. It’s the trashcan of the internet. I don’t know why people still lurk there.