That’s kinda the point I was making. The meme says “these guys kept child sex slaves”. Someone responds that Clinton didn’t have the same level of involvement as Trump and Epstein. Someone else responded “they want to believe their guy is good”. My response is basically “saying that he isn’t a pimp isn’t saying that he’s good”.

There are different levels of evil. All should be dealt with. Maybe the worst (the pimps, traffickers, ringleaders and financiers) should get priority, especially if they pose a greater threat to everyone else? Pointing that out is in no way excusing the lesser evil.

I haven’t seen anyone in this thread saying anything positive about Clinton. At most, a few folks have pointed out that we haven’t seen any rape accusations against Clinton in the files. I doubt that you’ll find anyone here who doesn’t want this whole mess properly investigated and for all of the guilty parties to get appropriate punishment.

I feel like I could have this same argument with a Trump supporter: Trumpie: “Well, Clinton’s in the files too” Me: ”I haven’t seen anyone tangible accusations, but if he committed crimes then lock him up” T: “You just want to defend your guy” Me: “Um, I really don’t. And please refrain from calling him ’my guy’”

Agreed. 100%

I’m worried about the implications that the child sex ring was a honeypot that was supported by multiple intelligence agencies. My understanding is that Maxwell has ties to Mossad and the US government clearly had knowledge of this shit for decades, yet the few investigations went nowhere. Is it simply because the perpetrators were wealthy and influential? Or was it because the whole operation was viewed as an important intelligence asset? In addition to funding the bombing of schools and refugee camps, are my tax dollars also funding a child sex trafficking rings?

Yeah, the Clintons have done absolutely terrible things. I would never claim otherwise. I don’t remember the Clinton administration very well but I don’t doubt that he’s a war criminal.

The meme claims that Bill was “keeping child sex slaves” and that isn’t supported by any evidence that I’ve seen.

Everyone involved should get investigated and tried for any and all crimes.

Fair. I do think scale is sometime important. A single murder is not a genocide. But I can see your POV.

Regardless, Clinton is awful but IDK what he did on the island. If he did rape kids then I hope they throw his ass in jail.

There is a world of room between “good” and “ran a child sex trafficking ring”. Clinton may be a POS for many reasons and he may have visited Epstine island and maybe even raped children (we don’t know at this point but anyone in the flight logs is sus). That is all absolutely terrible but it’s still very different than kidnapping 10’s or hundreds of children to rape and pimp. And the files seem to indicate that Trump was actively involved in this scheme for decades.

Most of the founding father owned slaves. Raping slaves was not an uncommon practice at the time and there were no restrictions on the appropriate age of the slaves one rapes. Thomas Jefferson may have started his “relationship” with Sally Hemming when she was 14.

I think it would take a decent effort to get clear proof about the founding fathers raping child slaves, but it is known that they owned slaves and many had illegitimate children with slaves and raping child slaves was a common practice at the time so I think it’s a strong possibility.

Or is it “mar-kuhwan-ye”, rhymes with Kanye (West)?