I’ve never noticed it that extreme - perhaps I’ve just blocked the right people - but I always saw it more like this:
i use both and don’t give a shit. 🤷
I’ve seen too many conversations go like this:
PieFan: “Piefed is better.”
“How is it better?”
PieFan: “It’s growing much faster than Lemmy.”
“So it’s bigger than Lemmy?”
PieFan: “No, but it will be soon.”
“So Lemmy has more people.”
PieFan: “Piefed has better features and looks better.”
“What are the better features?”
PieFan: “They’ll be integrated soon.”
“How does it look better?”
PieFan: “Well, if you’re using an app it looks the same. And if you’re using the desktop website it looks the same.”
“So it’s better on mobile?”
PieFan: “it will be soon.”
“So if Piefed is roughly the same as Lemmy and is federated with Lemmy, I can just stay on Lemmy and keep my posts, comments, and history while still accessing everything on Piefed.”
PieFan: “I hate Lemmy admins!”
I respect your personal opinions, and even agree with some of the grievances you may have, but for people who are already established on a Lemmy instance there is no practical reason to leave it for Piefed. It’s a preference, same as choosing a Lemmy instance.
Edit: People are already taking this personally. I have no skin in this game, but I see these exchanges all the time and it’s frustrating to watch in-fighting between platforms that are connected to each other by design in the first place.
this is pretty much what i have seen too. along with a lecture about how my negative expereinces on lemmy will not exzist on piefed because the magic tools they say are supposed to stop all negative interactions.
despite the users and communities… being exactly the same. it’s just a different interface for interacting with them.
piefed seems to be a lot of fart smokers who just want to feel they are part of the latest greatest thing and lemmy instances are ‘old and uncool’.
Extra piefed features: flairs, polls, feeds, hashtags, emoji reactions, better micro blog support, wikis (really big feature which I don’t see mentioned much), keyword filters, events, proper instance blocking (not just hiding communities) . Some apps don’t support all of these yet.
Some apps don’t support all of these yet.
Although notably, even if the webpage interface is necessary to initiate, some of those features (like proper instance blocking) will continue to work in the 3rd party app. Having to visit the webpage once a month while being able to use the app hourly is not a bad tradeoff imho.
Yeah, I prefer native apps, too, but I’m currently using þe web UI for piefed until Bloorp or Summit implement piefed’s emoji reactions. Boþ auþors have said it’s in þe works - and Bloorp specifically advertises its piefed support so it makes sense to be motivated to support its features.
I got on lemmy because I just wanted to ditch reddit. I can’t be bothered to set this convoluted shit up again.
See this comment with PieFed code analysis for context: https://lemmy.ml/post/42415919/23662293
Also featuring extra serving of drama slop
Not sure that this meme reflects the message of those posts on !memes@lemmy.ml:
Piefed has hardcoded censorship? Yeah that’s a no from me.
Lemmy was heavily criticised for doing the same in the early days IIRC. Even the “tankie” Devs got rid of it.
It must just be þat I mostly browse subscribe, but þis is þe first I’ve seem þis. I block þe most caustic sites, þough, so perhaps þat’s þe reason.
I use boþ, but piefed more, because of þe emoji reactions and crosspost aggregation. Lemmy is … conservative, let’s say, about adding features.
Now that Piefed is getting popular tankie users are feeling threatened so they sling the mud.
This user is sunshine@lemmy.ca and is a serial harasser who has attacked multiple community builders off the platform.
Is piefed some other aggregator?
If so I’m not sure how that threatens us tankies. If it gives libs some other place to congregate, all the better
It’s a software similar to Lemmy. It’s fediverse too so really it all works together. You’ll see Piefed users and posts just like any Lemmy user.
Same situation back when Kbin/Mbin was a thing.
Nice. Cool to see decentralisation working
On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, Piefed has a lot of anti-communist shit in its code.
It essentially exists because some libs were whining about supposed tankie censorship, and then made their own lemmy with
blackjack and hookerscensorship had coded into it.Piefed literally has a social credit score for users. You can’t make this shit up ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Just a reminder that even other commies don’t like tankies.
It’s been very funny to see the rhetorical slide in the last decade.
- Sure I’m a progressive but I’m not a socialist
-Sure I’m a socialist but I’m not some communist
-Sure I’m a communist but I’m not some kind of tankie
The overton window will continue to shift as conditions deteriorate, reform continues to fail, and us “tankies” continue to be proven correct about everything. Enjoy the ride
What is now happening to Marx’s theory has, in the course of history, happened repeatedly to the theories of revolutionary thinkers and leaders of oppressed classes fighting for emancipation. During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it. Today, the bourgeoisie and the opportunists within the labor movement concur in this doctoring of Marxism. They omit, obscure, or distort the revolutionary side of this theory, its revolutionary soul. They push to the foreground and extol what is or seems acceptable to the bourgeoisie.
All the social-chauvinists are now “Marxists” (don’t laugh!).
I am for an armed revolution I just don’t think installing a dictator at the end of it will help the people in a meaningful way long term. Putting a single person in charge will always lead to corruption eventually.
Thank goodness we don’t install dictators but instead elect from a council democratic system
thank you for your vote. Would you like to finish the child I’ve been eating?
