• BrightCandle@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    This AI bubble is going to take so much of the economy with it and I can’t help but think we are all going to be paying to keep “too big to fail” businesses that clearly knew it was a bubble but invested anyway because the public would pay if it went side ways.

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    8 hours ago

    Aww, did you buy a bunch of correlated debt and refuse to validate whether the underlying assets would be profitable?

    That’s too bad.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Groups including JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley and SMBC are trying to find ways to distribute portions of data centre-related deals to a broader range of investors, according to people familiar with the matter.

    Lenders are exploring private deals to sell stakes in the debt as well as so-called risk transfers to reduce exposure to big borrowers and free up capacity for more lending.

    This gives me strong deja vu for the housing crisis of '08.

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      I agree. However, we all know the Federal Reserve will not allow this to happen and that they will just print the money to make them solvent, just like in 2008.

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    It’s like they suddenly realized that “data center leased to Oracle” but financed by them and owned by a no-name company with no assets and considerable liabilities is a bad idea.

    Also, would not be surprised to find the company is a shell company and after the finance and legal teams are paid, the income shifts back through shell companies to the parent company, which is somehow Oracle, but with no legal responsibility to the lenders or municipality.

    Even if my supposition is not accurate, just the first statement should have stopped them cold.

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      It’s like they suddenly realized that “data center leased to Oracle” but financed by them and owned by a no-name company with no assets and considerable liabilities is a bad idea.

      I would be shocked to discover that that’s not exactly, literally, what happened.

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    9 hours ago

    Why do I feel like “explore private deals” really just means “inventing legal fictions” to permanently insulate themselves from risk?

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    8 hours ago

    Maybe they can bundle them up into investment vehicles and sell them to normal people, they can name them Regular Everyday Investment Trusts or something. Totally no way for that to fall apart.

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      After they sell them, they can bet against their own product, double dipping on their failing portfolios.

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      8 hours ago

      so paywalled, didn’t even show a byline.

      This is fundamental mechanism behind subprime crisis., Channels to offload debt so that more debt can be issued.