Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.
Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union…
The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.
Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.
Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?
“Everything I consider bad in the world is the fault of those pesky easterners”
Now please, explain to me how the propaganda apparatus of a decrepit post-soviet nation with an economy the size of Italy has a bigger, more powerful and more pervasive propaganda apparatus than the US empire and the EU together.
Easy.
Propaganda is cheap. Especially in the age of the internet.
Why build bombs and wage physical war for astronomical amounts of money when you can put some incels in front of a few computers and sow incredible division between the people’s of another nation you don’t like? In that scenario a weaker/poorer nation can absolutely outplay a stronger/wealthier nation.
So the US, with 10 times the budget, can do 10 times better?
Please tell me how a small group of scientologists have extraordinary influence or a little country like Israel does. Let’s not pretend these things exist or that propaganda isn’t incredibly successful.
Israel has extraordinary influence because it’s backed by the US, Scientology is also from the US…
That wasn’t an answer.
Edit: for clarification you downplayed Russia’s influence but these even smaller countries and groups also have a disportional ability to disseminate propaganda.
Scientology is a cult which rich people join because there are other rich people, it’s a manifestation of class power. In the US it’s Scientology, in Spain it’s Opus Dei…
Israel I did provide an answer for.
Thank you. Why does Israel, that has the 1/4 the economy of Russia, able to effectively disseminate propaganda.
Is Russia not capable of making propaganda?
https://russiapost.info/politics/propaganda_machine
After researching it appears Russia has a very robust and effective propaganda machine. Why are you downplaying their success?
Because Israel is funded by the USA and has deep interconnections with USA’s intelligence apparatus. It’s fundamentally integrated into the USA’s propaganda machine and supported by the USA’s vast vast network of intelligence, propaganda, corporate control over the media, and dark money.
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Do you disagree that Russia has a robust propaganda system?
https://rsf.org/en/propaganda-monitor-rsf-releases-new-report-geopolitics-kremlin-propaganda
https://dgap.org/system/files/article_pdfs/meister_isolationpropoganda_apr16_web_1.pdf
Russia certainly attempts to have a robust propaganda system, and their propaganda certainly works within Russia. However, all states have propaganda systems, and Russia’s isn’t particularly strong. Evidence for that is that you’re sourcing your information without any awareness from some George Washington. It’s literally the Soviet joke:
An American spy and a Soviet spy are sharing a drink
A: Your propaganda program is incredible! Truly sophisticated stuff. I tell you, we at the CIA are in awe.
S: Thanks friend but our propaganda has nothing on yours.
A: Comrade, I don’t mean to disrespect you, but there’s no propaganda in the US.