To me right now is the first Red Dead Redemption. Finally I’m able to play it, I’ve wait for over a decade. No spoilers, zero youtube gameplay videos, zero questions about the game to my friends. It gotta be me, and the game, it happened, and I think it sucks.

Maybe you thinking in “well, you shouldn’t play the second first”. I did not. My first Red Dead game was Red Dead Revolver, I was able to play it a few years ago when I could buy a PS2, but I couldn’t get a PS3 nor a Xbox 360 to play RDR1. It grinded my gears because we got the prequel in PC. When RDR1 came to PC it was so freaking expensive, yet today, I think it is expensive. I was able to buy the game some weeks ago while there was a Steam Sale, and well, I regreat it now.

I don’t like its exploration, its missions, its characters, its world, its secondary missions. its wanted system, and nothing but less important: has a lot of bugs.

That’s my experience in a few words.

What’s the game that you wanted to play but it was a total mess?

  • AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
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    I really want to like Metal Gear Solid games, but after playing a fair way into MGS3… I kind of hate it. The controls and mechanics are so bad.

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      I’ve played MGS1 in Gamecube and MGS2 in PS2. The only reason I haven’t played the 3rd it’s because to me it’s one of those games that you need to be in your couch like 8 hours straight to get everything that it’s happening and learn to play properly. If you play like one or two hours it’s to alike that you forget things like CQC.

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        Despite my best efforts, I never got to a point where I felt like I wasn’t fighting against the controls and mechanics. As somebody who has played a fair share of other stealth games, they just are really bad.

        I’ll talk about the boss fight that was the final straw for me.

        spoiler

        It was a character who could turn invisible, jump into the tree tops, and shoot poisonous arrows at me. I had to run around constantly to avoid being hit, try to locate him, quickly switch to first person mode to shoot at him before he would jump to another tree, rinse and repeat. Having to switch between first and third person modes so frequently was jarring and disorrienting. Having to run around so much was frustrating because there were also traps everywhere. It was frequently the case that switching to first person mode to shoot him would result in getting shot by one of his poison arrows, which meant I would have to quickly stop what I was doing to go into the start menu, to open a special medical treatment menu, to deal with a healing system that was way more convoluted than it needed to be, and which also contributed to the disorientation.

        The whole thing was an exercise in annoyance and frustration. After getting past it, it made me realize how hard I had been trying to ignore the way these things had been annoying me throughout the entire game. I couldn’t ignore it anymore. Just hate it, the games are not for me.

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          I partly agree. I’m at the final boss in the 3 remake, and I spent nearly the entire game yelling at it. But I really enjoy his bonkers and clunky storytelling. The escort mission near the end must be the worst escort mission ever made. Waiting at the end checkpoint while she just stands there as her hunger meter drops rapidly, and you have no food, and soldiers keep spawning endlessly.

          I’m also really confused why the Russian military troops continue attacking you as their general is actively slaughtering them.

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      One reason the controls are bad is because the Metal Gear Solid games were built around the use of the DualShock controller. It’s not really advertised as such but that controller has a lot of analog buttons. In CQC you press L3(?) and it puts a knife to the soldier’s throat. Depending on how hard you press L3 determines how close you are to cutting their throat and how scared they get.

      The function is still there but the analog input is not. It’s not quite the same without the analog.

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        I’ve played with and without the analog inputs, and using a real DualShock 2. By default it’s not L3, it’s circle for cqc, and square for pressure sensitive controls for the gun.

        The controls were even worse on ps2 because even though they are technically analog buttons, they have a very short travel distance which makes it too easy to accidentally do the wrong thing. I found the modern controls slightly more intuitive.

        There was also a time I tried to play the ps2 version on pcsx2, but could only use a DualShock 4 then. Since that controller doesn’t have analog face buttons, I remapped cqc to L2 and gunfire to R2 and found that control scheme worked surprizingly well.

        But the basic controls are the least of those game’s problems.