I have Tuxedo laptop (they get them the same ODMs as Slimbook) and love it but if it ever drops on the floor with significant imparct I no longer have a laptop. All I could do is send it back for official repair to Germany and prey, while if I got Framework I could buy parts myself.
I have 16 inch framework. I bought it fairly stripped down, only getting the parts I really needed for basic function as a laptop. I then bought additional parts as I had money for them and slotted them in. Made it a much more affordable purchase over all.
And… then I spilled water on the keyboard. Shut it down, pulled it apart a little, dried next to a fan for a bit. Water hadn’t gotten past the keyboard luckily, but the keyboard was only partly functional. I just got a new keyboard module, put it in my self, good as new. No sending out the whole computer, no getting told by the rep that the whole machine was broken and I had to buy a new one.
Payed for its self immediately that day as far as I’m concerned.
Totally but year or two ago you had to pay ~2.5k for a Framework and ~1.3k for a similar Slimbook. That meant that even if you dropped your Slimbook you could just buy a new one and it would still cost the same as the Framework. The selling point for Framework was that you could upgrade it but why spend more money to upgrade a laptop when you can just a Slimbook and buy completely new Slimbook couple years later for the price of one Framework? Now that the difference is about 500 euros it makes sense.
The Thinkpad T460 i bought 9 years ago was passed on to a family member after a couple years and is still in use. I don’t know how that’s wasteful.
If I had bought a Framework I would have bought a new mainboard and I can’t pass a mainboard on, I can’t use it as a cheap home server. The old mainboard would have been electronic waste.
Wait, why wouldn’t you 3D print (or order) the official mainboard enclosure and use it as a cheap home server? You could at least sell it or pass it along to someone else who would.
i don’t have a 3D printer. granted there’s a cooler master mainboard case but it’s 45€ and i would still have to add at least four expansion cards for 85€ (ethernet, 2x usb-c, hdmi) a power adapter for 120€ and mass storage (maybe even some ram modules if i can reuse the old ones). at that point i’m running a bill for turning that mainboard into a server where i could just buy a new dedicated one.
I have Tuxedo laptop (they get them the same ODMs as Slimbook) and love it but if it ever drops on the floor with significant imparct I no longer have a laptop. All I could do is send it back for official repair to Germany and prey, while if I got Framework I could buy parts myself.
I have 16 inch framework. I bought it fairly stripped down, only getting the parts I really needed for basic function as a laptop. I then bought additional parts as I had money for them and slotted them in. Made it a much more affordable purchase over all.
And… then I spilled water on the keyboard. Shut it down, pulled it apart a little, dried next to a fan for a bit. Water hadn’t gotten past the keyboard luckily, but the keyboard was only partly functional. I just got a new keyboard module, put it in my self, good as new. No sending out the whole computer, no getting told by the rep that the whole machine was broken and I had to buy a new one.
Payed for its self immediately that day as far as I’m concerned.
Totally but year or two ago you had to pay ~2.5k for a Framework and ~1.3k for a similar Slimbook. That meant that even if you dropped your Slimbook you could just buy a new one and it would still cost the same as the Framework. The selling point for Framework was that you could upgrade it but why spend more money to upgrade a laptop when you can just a Slimbook and buy completely new Slimbook couple years later for the price of one Framework? Now that the difference is about 500 euros it makes sense.
Because that’s wasteful
There’s limit to what I’m willing to pay extra to be more green.
In the long run it is also more expensive.
The Thinkpad T460 i bought 9 years ago was passed on to a family member after a couple years and is still in use. I don’t know how that’s wasteful.
If I had bought a Framework I would have bought a new mainboard and I can’t pass a mainboard on, I can’t use it as a cheap home server. The old mainboard would have been electronic waste.
Wait, why wouldn’t you 3D print (or order) the official mainboard enclosure and use it as a cheap home server? You could at least sell it or pass it along to someone else who would.
i don’t have a 3D printer. granted there’s a cooler master mainboard case but it’s 45€ and i would still have to add at least four expansion cards for 85€ (ethernet, 2x usb-c, hdmi) a power adapter for 120€ and mass storage (maybe even some ram modules if i can reuse the old ones). at that point i’m running a bill for turning that mainboard into a server where i could just buy a new dedicated one.
The XPS 13 I bought like eight years ago will eventually turn to dust just… Watching YouTube videos on my desk.
The battery died five years back so I replaced it.
Dell emailed me to tell me that Windows 10 was out of support, I’ve had Linux on it for years now.
I also have an EeePC.