I’m a conservative. I don’t mind the liberal stuff here. It’s good to learn the other side, but I don’t want a liberal echo chamber. I’d like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?

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    3 years ago

    Unfortunately most of the more “conservative” instances became highly toxic and so most other instances have defederated with them.

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      No, the Internet as a whole has more liberals than conservatives, due to a variety of reason. In real life you are much more likely to met someone that is neutral or only slightly to either side. What exists here is literal echo chambers of liberal policy to the point the policy becomes unpalatable for most, that doesn’t exist outside the internet.

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    3 years ago

    I don’t think it’s controversial to say that “conservative” in the context of US politics has been bifurcated. On the one hand, there are definitely traditional conservatives out there. On the other hand, the really loud ones tend to be far right edge lords who purposefully speak loudly about topics that are socially unacceptable. It’s always based on a misunderstanding of free speech, too: people are generally free to say what they want, but they are not free from the consequences imposed by society based on what they say, especially when supporting harmful activities or straight violence. This is something Elon Musk really should learn about.

    I’m all for open discourse with traditional conservatives, but I’m not about to sit idly by while Nazis return to the stage. There was a war and the outcome was pretty darned clear. So, I’d say it’s a good example of bad apples ruining the bunch (though from what I have seen, the number ratio of Nazis vs traditional conservatives is sadly pretty high). I think it is an issue that will need to be fixed between conservatives, ultimately. Shutting down Nazis (again) seems quite acceptable to me, however.

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    I’m just going to say try making an account on the unilem.org instance, from there you’ll be able to access all instances from the fediverse. It’s about as politically balanced as they get since they almost never defederate, it doesn’t have very many communities though so you’ll have to find those on other instances, by the way if a community from another instance doesn’t appear in the one that you’re in, go to the search bar in the communities tab and type ![community name]@[instance domain] and assuming that you typed it correctly it’ll usually sync it and then you can subscribe to it.

    Since unilem hasn’t defederated any of the big instances you’ll very likely have access to all communities on Lemmy.

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    Could you define “conservative” in terms of politics (presumably US)? For example, low taxes and small government? And/or anti abortion and pro religion? Anti gun safety legislation? Anti regulation?

    Perhaps you’re looking for the more contemporary definition of “conservative” that’s come about since the Tea Party or MAGA movements started? Mostly focused on being against whatever liberals/progressive are for?

    As others have mentioned I think there are a lot of spaces out there for the latter group. I’m not sure many exist for the former group.

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      None exist for the former group, you toe one of the other two lines completely or you can go fuck off, individual thought is sacrelige and nuance is dead.

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    Serious question: Wouldn’t you as a conservative who doesn’t want an echo chamber therefore NOT join a conservative community? Wouldn’t THAT put you in an echo chamber?

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        If you find that, let me know. My entire experience on platform after platform is that the internet is 80% messy, open conversational marketplace that tends to lean left, 19% conservative echo chamber, and 1% tight, closed door communities where “reasonable” conservatives live in denial of the world around them.

        If you feel like you’re in a liberal echo chamber because you see trans people being talked about as real without anyone coming to shout it all down, then what you’re really looking for is the 19% and I’m sure you’ll find it.

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    I’m confused. You are here and engaging, but you think it is an echo chamber? Echo chambers aren’t really conducive to outside opinions. I’m here and definitely not a liberal, I’m a humanitarian.

    As long as you don’t see any person to the left of you as a Liberal, you’ll find a decently diverse pool here!

    Stick around, smell the flowers.

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    Just a reminder that it isn’t a left vs right conversation. It’s working class vs ruling class.

    You aren’t bitter at leftists, you’re bitter at the ideas that media companies use to keep you angry at leftists instead of oligarchs.

    If you have to work, you’re working class.

    If you actually do hate certain types of people, then you need to work on yourself.

    If you don’t believe certain people need health care, then you need to work on yourself.

    If you believe ultra wealthy (people making over $10mil in income annually) deserve more tax cuts, then you need to work on yourself.

    If you don’t believe that minimum wage should have parity with inflation, then you need to work on yourself.

    Have some class solidarity.

    EDIT: To all those downvotes… Ask yourself why you are downvoting me. (Now with 100% more sources)

    Do you actually hate certain people? Really? But you’re downvoting me? Work on yourself.

    Do you actually believe you don’t deserve health care? That others don’t deserve health care? Seriously? Work on yourself.

    Are you super wealthy (low percentage chance)? I’m saying uncomfortable things to you. But you can easily afford those taxes so maybe work on yourself.

    Do you believe people working for minimum wage shouldn’t be able to afford an apartment by themselves anywhere in the USA? Work on yourself.

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    Being a conservative must be a discombobulating experience in the technological age. The conservative is attempting to prevent the progression of society and conserve what we currently have or even revert to a bygone era.

    OP arrives at a brand new platform, a piece of technology that didn’t exist a short while ago and requests a space to assemble people who don’t like change.

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    Let me know if you do find a more moderate space, because yeah, it’s very much an echo chamber on most Lemmy communities.

    I might recommend checking out certain communities that tailor more to your hobbies rather than politics on here.